U.S. agents were in Libya before secret Obama order

U.S. agents were in Libya before secret Obama order

WASHINGTON | Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:21pm EDT

(Reuters) – U.S. intelligence operatives were on the ground in Libya before President Barack Obama signed a secret order authorizing covert support for anti-Gaddafi rebels, U.S. government sources told Reuters.

The CIA personnel were sent in to contact opponents of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi and assess their capabilities, two U.S. officials said.

“They’re trying to sort out who could be turned into a military unit and who couldn’t,” said Bob Baer, a former CIA case officer whose memoirs were turned into the Hollywood thriller “Syriana.”

Baer said the U.S. operatives most likely entered Libya on the ground through neighboring Egypt and are lightly equipped….

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/31/us-libya-usa-rebels-idUSTRE72U7NM20110331?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FtopNews+%28News+%2F+US+%2F+Top+News%29

TRUTH MATTERS BIBLE CONFERENCE WITH JOHN MACARTHUR

TRUTH MATTERS BIBLE CONFERENCE WITH JOHN MACARTHUR

By Ken Silva pastor-teacher on Mar 31, 2011

In articles like Spiritual Blindness And Famine In The Land and Evangelicalism Meet Thy Future here at this online apologetics and discernment work Apprising Ministries I’ve been mentioning lately that as a veritable tsunami of apostasy grows-likely fueled by 1 Peter 4:17 judgments sent by Jesus-I’m essentially just documenting this falling away from Biblical doctrine so people will have no excuse.

A case in point is my writing concerning the sinfully ecumenical neo-liberal cult of the Emergent Church aka the Emerging Church-a ungodly Trojan Horse filled with heresy-headed by, among others, the unholy EC trinity of apostates, Living Spiritual Teacher and EC guru Brian McLaren, universalist Emerging Church pastor Doug Pagitt, and his friend Tony Jones, the progressive “theologian in residence” at Solomon’s Porch.

I’ve told you that part of their loathsome legacy is their bringing into the mainstream of rapidly apostatizing evangelicalism a new postmodern form of “big tent” Progressive Christianity-a Liberalism 2.0-sometimes referred to by these rebels against the final authority of God’s Word as Emergence Christianity.

There’s no shortage of bad things to tell you about so it’s all the more pleasing when I can tell you of something I will actually recommend as worth your time in the Lord. So it is with the below:

Key Note Speakers

(Online source: http://www.truthmattersconference.org/)

See also:

THE NEW DOWNGRADE AND ITS APOSTLES OF UNBELIEF

CONCERNING CARNALITY AND CONTEXTUALIZATION IN CORINTH

POSTMODERNISM IS SINFUL AND NOT COMPATABLE WITH CHRISTIANITY

JOHN MACARTHUR: EXISTENTIAL NEO-ORTHODOXY DENIES SOLA SCRIPTURA

JOHN MACARTHUR COMMENTS ON NEW CALVINISM

JOHN MACARTHUR: WHEN BEING “NICE” IS WRONG

JOHN MACARTHUR: SEEKER-FRIENDLY MOVEMENT IS THE NEW LIBERALISM

http://apprising.org/2011/03/31/truth-matters-bible-conference-with-john-macarthur/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+apprising%2F2+%28Apprising+Ministries%29

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Hey.. Justin.. what do you think about this gobbly mess ?

Honestly.. can you believe Furtick has “fit in” now with the Driscoll/Piper/Chandler.. Acts 29 brothers?

Greg Laurie has been warned by MacArthur in person.. my own pastor told me this and he was Mac’s assoc. pastor until moving out here.

Chandler is a mystic and audibly hears from God!

and Furtick?? some people here should go down to Charlotte and take a look at ALL the cars with his Elevation Church sticker on the back!

These are a group of deceivers IMO.

Justin, would you mind commenting on your posts? It leaves people wondering.. o.k.?

I think we’ve got an “Elephant Room” thread someone in our search engine..

This stuff makes my guts curl.

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I don’t know anything about this blogger, but he is posting notes to the Elephant Room here: http://thejakers.tumblr.com/

Elephant Room Conversation #1 – Preaching for building attendance vs. Preaching for building attendees

Stephen Furtick

*When you focus on people far from God and making about attendance, you depersonalize it.

*Without a focus on reaching people far from God, you become a mindset of feed me.

*To say that leading my church missionally and evangelically produces people who are babies only…This isn’t about us. It isn’t about collecting knowledge. Trying to create a church that doesn’t just hear the word but does it.

*The greatest growth of a believer is when they get out and live it.

*Sometimes I have to be hyperbolic. I makes me angry how many people are cycling through my church as one of four churches they attend. There is a hyperbolic sense in which I say if all I want is to go deeper and what you mean by deeper is abstract knowledge that makes it so I don’t have to go home to treat my wife well and engage my neighbors, go somewhere else.

*If I am not faithfully speaking to people far from God week after week in the pulpit. How in the world will people model what I don’t model?

Matt Chandler

*A baby breast feeding is cute. A twenty year old breast feeding isn’t. That’s illegal.

*Evangelism only: If you’re for people and only doing a service, you’re doing them a disservice.

*I’ve seen people kick in the soul who haven’t developed the depth of the knowledge of the character of God.

*My problem with evangelism only is that it looks at doctrinal depth as the enemy of conversion.

*Legitimate concern: Video of Steven rebuking the crowd for wanting depth, the defense being we’ve seen thousands of people saved. You said evangelism and doctrine are exclusive.

*We see quite a bit of conversion at our church.

David Platt

*Evangelism is important, but it shouldn’t be centered around me. We need to equip our people to go out and evangelize.

Perry Noble

*I agree but I don’t think it’s either or. I think it’s both.

8- (

Just got home from being down in Charlotte the last 2 days helping Cheryl pack up her stuff and watch my granddaughters. They leave for Cleveland tomorrow afternoon.

Please tell me not to bawl my eyes out..o.k.?

(tape tear ducts shut and duct tape my mouth corners in an upward position)

‘thanks for listening….. :hug2:

Elephant Room Notes

I don’t know anything about this blogger, but he is posting notes to the Elephant Room here: http://thejakers.tumblr.com/

Elephant Room Conversation #1 – Preaching for building attendance vs. Preaching for building attendees

Stephen Furtick

*When you focus on people far from God and making about attendance, you depersonalize it.

*Without a focus on reaching people far from God, you become a mindset of feed me.

*To say that leading my church missionally and evangelically produces people who are babies only…This isn’t about us. It isn’t about collecting knowledge. Trying to create a church that doesn’t just hear the word but does it.

*The greatest growth of a believer is when they get out and live it.

*Sometimes I have to be hyperbolic. I makes me angry how many people are cycling through my church as one of four churches they attend. There is a hyperbolic sense in which I say if all I want is to go deeper and what you mean by deeper is abstract knowledge that makes it so I don’t have to go home to treat my wife well and engage my neighbors, go somewhere else.

*If I am not faithfully speaking to people far from God week after week in the pulpit. How in the world will people model what I don’t model?

Matt Chandler

*A baby breast feeding is cute. A twenty year old breast feeding isn’t. That’s illegal.

*Evangelism only: If you’re for people and only doing a service, you’re doing them a disservice.

*I’ve seen people kick in the soul who haven’t developed the depth of the knowledge of the character of God.

*My problem with evangelism only is that it looks at doctrinal depth as the enemy of conversion.

*Legitimate concern: Video of Steven rebuking the crowd for wanting depth, the defense being we’ve seen thousands of people saved. You said evangelism and doctrine are exclusive.

*We see quite a bit of conversion at our church.

David Platt

*Evangelism is important, but it shouldn’t be centered around me. We need to equip our people to go out and evangelize.

Perry Noble

*I agree but I don’t think it’s either or. I think it’s both.

State Comptroller will probe 'Bibi-Tours' allegations

State Comptroller will probe ‘Bibi-Tours’ allegations

Lindenstrauss decides to investigate aspects of affair including funding of Netanyahu’s campaign for primary elections and funding of trips by private parties, some of which may have broken conflict of interest laws

03/31/2011 17:17

State Comptroller Micha Lindenstrauss on Thursday decided that he will investigate “Bibi Tours” allegations, which contend Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu had trips abroad improperly funded by private individuals.

The allegations were first raised in an investigative news report by Channel 10 news last week.

Netanyahu has denied any wrongdoing in the affair……….http://www.jpost.com/NationalNews/Article.aspx?id=214611

Europe rates to lead USA as global power shifts…

ECB FOCUS-Europe rates to lead U.S. as global power shifts

ECB hiking before Fed would be new in a tightening cycle

* Shows Asia’s increased influence on euro zone

* Fed likely to narrow rate gap with ECB later

FRANKFURT, March 31 (Reuters) – After following the Federal Reserve’s lead for over a decade, the European Central Bank is poised to launch a series of interest rate hikes before the U.S. central bank for the first time in the ECB’s history.

The change from the traditional pattern reflects the ECB’s greater preoccupation with inflation pressures, as well as its higher level of discomfort with the emergency bond-buying programmes run by central banks.

But the “decoupling” of ECB and Fed policies is also the result of an historic shift in the global economy: the increased influence that Asia, rather than the United States, is having on the euro zone’s economy.

“I think we are in a new world where global interest rate cycles are not initiated by the Fed,” said Jens Sondergaard, senior European economist at Nomura.

“There has been a lot of import price inflation pushing up euro area inflation…and a lot of this is related to above-trend growth in Asia.”………….http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/31/ecb-fed-rates-idUSLDE72S1AE20110331

U.S. worried by India's oil deal with Iran

U.S. worried by India’s oil deal with Iran

Published: March. 31, 2011 at 7:04 AM

WASHINGTON, March 31 (UPI) — Officials in the U.S. Treasury Department said they were “concerned” that a German bank was facilitating Indian oil payments to Iran.

Tehran was selling crude oil to India on credit because the Reserve Bank of India closed the Asian Clearing Union in December. The ACU was used to buy crude oil from Iran, though New Delhi faced financial hurdles because of U.S. economic sanctions targeting Iran’s energy sector.

New Delhi made a $2.07 billion payment to the Central Bank of Iran for crude oil imports following a three-month suspension during the first week of March. The cash moved to Iran through German bank Europaeisch-Iranische Handelsbank AG.

EIH would receive euros for the Iranian crude provided Indian importers issue notes saying the money wouldn’t be used for sanctioned goods.

Officials in the U.S. Treasury Department told The New York Times they would work with U.S. allies “to isolate EIH.”

“Treasury is concerned about recent reports that the German government authorized the use of EIH as a conduit for India’s oil payments to Iran,” one official told the Times on condition of anonymity………….http://www.upi.com/Science_News/Resource-Wars/2011/03/31/US-worried-by-Indias-oil-deal-with-Iran/UPI-17711301569492/

Obama Planted Seeds of Failure

Obama Planted Seeds of Failure

Posted: 03/30/11 07:02 PM ET

A couple of years ago, I wrote an open letter to President Obama applauding his commitment to peace in the Middle East, but warning that he should be prepared to fail. My reasoning was that he was following Albert Einstein’s definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and hoping for a different result.

In critiquing his approach, I used the metaphor of trying to plant a flower into desert sand. No matter how hard you try to force it, if the earth isn’t right, nothing will grow.

This flower — a sapling would be a more apt metaphor — represents peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians. For nearly two decades, this little tree has been paraded around the world as the “key to peace in the Middle East.” Accordingly, no issue has captivated globetrotting diplomats quite like this one.

Among all diplomats, perhaps the one who has spent the most time on this issue has been Dennis Ross, the point man on the peace process for three U.S. presidents, including the current administration.

Several years ago, Ross said something to me at a charity event that stuck with me: His biggest regret was that they didn’t enforce the anti-incitement clause in the Oslo agreement.

Ross was revealing a painful truth about the peace process — you can’t have peace without education. You can haggle over borders all day long, but if the people living within those borders are poisoned with hate and are not prepared for compromise, no leader will sign on to an “end of conflict” agreement.

You can make a good case that, had the Palestinian Authority spent the last two decades educating their people for peace, they’d have their own state by now and we’d be talking today about common projects, not Qassam rockets.

But of course they didn’t promote peace. Instead, they promoted the well-worn script of Arab dictators who need to build street cred with the masses: Demonize the Jews and the Zionist entity. Is it any wonder that Palestinian leaders, from Arafat to Abbas, have found it so difficult to say yes to Israeli peace offers? How could they compromise with an enemy they helped to demonize?

What would they say to their people? Sorry, we lied to you — the Jews really do have a claim to this land? It’s true, they’ve had a presence in Jerusalem for more than 3,000 years? If Israel is willing to withdraw settlements for the sake of peace, we should also be willing to compromise on the right of return? Let’s be nice with them so they will help us build a great country?

What is so shocking about those simple words is that we have never heard them spoken by any Palestinian leader, in English or in Arabic.

Yet those words were the crucial missing ingredients to nourish the tree of peace. They needed to be spoken not occasionally at interfaith meetings, but consistently and persuasively in Palestinian schools, media, summer camps and mosques.

But who ever dared pressure Palestinian leaders to speak those words? Peace groups? A global community that kept pouring billions into Palestinian coffers while reinforcing their narrative of exclusive victimhood? The United States, which never gave Palestinians any incentive to stop glorifying terrorism and start teaching peace?

When Obama the peacemaker finally had his chance, instead of promoting peace, he promoted the tired old trope of putting pressure on Israel to make more unilateral concessions.

Instead of launching, for example, a breakthrough peace-education campaign to convey to Palestinians that peace was worth compromising on the right of return, and to Israelis that peace would not mean suicide, he came up with a new excuse for Palestinians to stay away from peace talks: A Jewish construction freeze as a precondition to those talks.

By the time he realized his blunder, it was too late. He had already lost both sides. As Rabbi Donniel Hartman politely suggested last week in a “Letter to Obama,” Israeli society “doesn’t fully trust you yet.”

Ironically, neither do the Palestinians, who, given no incentive by the United States to negotiate or compromise, simply flew off to make their own deal with the world.

Obama planted seeds all right, but instead of seeds of peace, they were seeds of failure………….http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-suissa/obama-planted-seeds-of-fa_b_842759.html

Israel fears the alternative if Syria's Assad falls

Israel fears the alternative if Syria’s Assad falls

Syria is one of Israel’s strongest enemies, but it has been predictable and relatively stable.

March 30, 2011

Reporting from Jerusalem- As popular unrest threatens to topple another Arab neighbor, Israel finds itself again quietly rooting for the survival of an autocratic yet predictable regime, rather than face an untested new government in its place.

Syrian President Bashar Assad’s race to tamp down public unrest is stirring anxiety in Israel that is even higher than its hand-wringing over Egypt’s recent regime change. Unlike Israel and Egypt, Israel and Syria have no peace agreement, and Syria, with a large arsenal of sophisticated weapons, is one of Israel’s strongest enemies.

Though Israel has frequently criticized Assad for cozying up to Iran, arming Lebanon’s Hezbollah movement and sheltering leaders of the Palestinian militant group Hamas, many in Israel think their country might be better off if Assad keeps the reins of power.

“You want to work with the devil you know,” said Moshe Maoz, a former government advisor and Syria expert at Hebrew University’s Harry S. Truman Institute for the Advancement of Peace…………..http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-israel-syria-20110331,0,2764120.story